From: rs@enetis.net Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 19:23:27 -0600 (MDT) To: Martin Lindstedt (mlindste@jscomm.net) Subject: Andy's Applicaiton to ID-L From: "Andy" (andyandersonusa@home.com) To: "L. J. Alberts" (ljalberts@pobox.com) Cc: "Rs@Enetis. Net" (rs@enetis.net) Subject: Application Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:57:54 -0800 Name: Richard K. Anderson (nickname: Andy) E-Mail Address: andyandersonusa@home.com Where you are from (generally): Born Montreal 1952, lived twice in Scotland as a boy (total 1.5 years), mainly raised in the sub-Arctic (northern Quebec and Labrador), USA since 1967, naturalized 1984. English/Scotch and French heritage. Ex-Navy 10 years, disabled vet, chemical lung damage. How long you have been using the Internet: I briefly used the Internet in about 1976/77 when I was stationed at the Navy Academy (ex-enlisted). I have been a consistent Internet user since early 1996. We would also like to get some specifics as well: 1. Are you a Christian? How did you become a Christian? How long ago? First, please open and read the attachment enclosed, thank-you. It is part of what I believe and why. I have always had a belief in God and Christ as far back as my memory takes me. What surprises me is the fact that He has had an enduring interest in me. On the 20th of October 1978, I hit the low point in my life, that day I had gotten a free Bible outside the Chaplain's office at a squadron hanger, with the promise that I would read it. That night, miserably alone like I had never been so alone, I allowed the Bible to open for the first time, just to start reading something, hoping that it would speak to me and my situation and it opened to the 23rd Psalm, my favorite passage. God had spoken in a different manner to me. I read that Bible. Today I am a baptized, Christ believing, Christian Identity Elder in New Covenant Bible Church under Pastor Larry Blanchard, here in Washington State. Just a couple of weeks ago I was privileged to witness to someone who came to my office, alone and in abject misery, and I pulled down that same Bible and showed the message I wrote in it about how my life was changed that night. Before he left, he was better for telling me what had happened in his life, for the Christian counseling received and for my giving him a Bible to take to read. His wife of 12 years had left him and taken the kids, and much more was going on as well. I was inspired to see the light in his eyes and the changed countenance upon his face when he left. Praise God! 2. Who do you believe Jesus Christ to be and how has this changed your life? I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God (the second Adam) and is God in the flesh. It has changed my life in that when I prayed to understand His word, despite the clear warning that with much knowledge comes much sorrow (Eccl 1:18). All sorts of sinful things have passed away, like getting drunk, carousing, cussing, and I'm rid of an unfaithful wife these past 19 years. On the positive side I have been renewed daily through Christ and He has improved my life physically and spiritually in every facet and form. 3. When and how did you first hear of the Christian Israel truth? It was about 1982 or 1983 when I first heard about Christian identity. It was shortly before my becoming a citizen in 1984 that I also accepted Christian Identity. I became involved in the local Populist party, went to patriotic functions, met others in groups that were Christian identity and went to a couple of churches in the area as I was able. This wasn't always suitable, as it was third of a day or longer just getting there and then back, not counting services. In my heart and by spoken and written declaration, my faith was affirmed. At the Navy Hospital where I work as a specialty medical technician, I am the only CI person there, and it is public knowledge. I tell people who ask that we are commanded to be separate, that it is not supremacy, that we are a servant people unto God. 4. When did you come to accept this truth? See answer above. 5. How long have you been studying "Identity" Christian issues? I've been studying the Truth since about that same time, 1982/3 as the Holy Writ commands us to prove all things (1Thess 5:21) 6. What sort of Kingdom believing, "Identity," or Patriotic Christian publications do you subscribe to? Recommend? I receive The Jubilee and buy additional books and magazines from BOHICA book sellers at the gun show. I also get our church newsletter and have access to the circulating library there. For several years I used to get the Knights of the KKK newspaper, also The Truth At Last, and many others. I think that The Jubilee is a good newspaper to receive, I can also recommend The Truth At Last, and if it is still published, Gospel Ministry News by Pastor Bob Hallstrom. The Kingdom Chronicles by Bruggeman used to be good, but I hear that he has hooked up with Pastor Jones, and that is the end of that in my opinion. Calling Our Nation by Aryan Nations used to be a favorite, but the quality was erratic and sometimes poor, like the time they printed the wrong number for Hitler's membership when he joined the NS Party (salvation does not come by a political party). Scriptures for America newsletter is less than it used to be, but his books have been very good (Pastor Peters seems to have gone ecumenical). The Destiny Editorial Letters are still at their usual par, and in all these, you have to be diligent in discerning the message. I do not have any recommendation for KKK papers, nor do I recommend WAR by Metzger, though the cartoon art was excellent. I used to get Dr. Pierce's magazine until that ran out, but it is not Christian. 7. What books would you recommend everyone on the Identity discussion list to read (besides the Bible)? The first thing is a tool to use with the Bible, and it is Strong's Concordance. That is essential for rightfully diving the Word and discerning the truth which has been artfully concealed by our enemies and sometimes, by well intentioned but foolish translators. For beginners, The Abrahamic Covenant pamphlet by E. Raymond Capt is good, and for meatier reading, I prefer God's Covenant People by Ted Weiland. For understanding where we got sidetracked, I recommend The Two Babylons by Hislop, Babylon Mystery religion by Woodrow, Waters Flowing Eastward by Fry, Who is Esau-Edom by Weisman, The Thirteenth Tribe by Koestler, White Power by Rockwell, The International Jew by Ford, and you get the idea. Standing on the Premises (A presentation of 38 Biblical propositions of Christian-Israel Identity Theology, 241 pages) by Pastor Blanchard is also a must have, in my opinion. 8. What do you feel is the most important issue(s) Christians, and especially those of the "Identity" persuasion, should be active in or need to understand? I think that the most useful thing that they can do is to be well educated and to share that through Christian fellowship and writing. The local church (the body of believers, not some diseased Judaic imitation) is where a large amount of authority and responsibility is entrusted for the building of the Kingdom. In the secular world we need tracts by the millions. The great communication war is dependent upon our getting the word out to people in some fashion. It has to have a hook that gets them, it must be simple enough to grasp, and it has to be spread wide and far, with the promise of more by contacting or writing themselves to an address, even the web. Once the truth (bait) on the hook is taken, you have to correct their misunderstandings on some other issue while feeding them what they were seeking, in other words, a simple bonus. TV is a form of tract, we need paper tracts, lots and lots of them, as well as single message, hard hitting tapes. 9. If you had to define what "Identity" Christianity means to you how would you summarize/define it in a few sentences? Jesus Christ is our kinsman redeemer, our King of Kings and Most High Priest. He is the fulfiller of all things and the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Nordic, Celtic, Lombard and kindred peoples are his people, Israel. Those Jews who say they are Israel and are not (Rev 2:9 and 3:9 and John 8:44), are liars, frauds, impostors and worse. The Covenant promises and blessings are ours, so is our duty, responsibility, and authority to act. Roman Civil Law has curtailed action and inhibited standing tall. It has made lawful things a crime in order to control us, even if all that we do is lawful and legal. The scriptures commands us to be bold, to hold our lamp high. 10.Which Christian Israel ministries are you a part of? (Tape ministry, publications, etc.) A) The Jubilee B) Destiny Editorial Newsletter C) Scriptures for America D) Saxon News (of New Covenant Bible Church), where I am part of the body. 11.How did you hear about the Identity Christian discussion list? I have seen occasional messages from the list make it to the web from time to time, and have known that it existed but little else ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I consider it an honor to have been asked to apply for membership, however you ought to know that I have had a problem with Martin Lindstedt and his company of friends, having had to remove them from Holy War where I am a moderator. It also seems that today I have been made a foe of a Pastor in Northern Ireland for taking on the task of gathering information concerning the theology of Pastor Jones (accused of destroying his reputation), and for adding my concerns on Holy War. If they are members in good standing with you, then I am unsuitable to even consider as a candidate. Thank-you Louis and Rick, for your courtesy in considering my application. Vaya Con Dios, Andy
Notes & Commentary.The following was sent in application by Andy Anderson asking to be put on the ID-L listserver by one Louis Alberts and Rick Savage. Around early September 2001 the antecedants of Andy, Meggie, Perna were being sought because Andy had taken the Holy_War listserver off the public archive access due to Perna having been proven not only to be a jew organizing the Jew Birch/Bitch Sociopaths, but having owned, operated and advertised "gay preferred" motels in Columbia South Carolina. Rich Savage sent me these e-mails because Rick Savage was being pushed off of the private CI listserver he had founded by a cabal led by AndyAnderson and Meggie Butts.
I had been on the ID-L listserver at the invitation of Willie Martin and voted upon and accepted in April or May 2000. When asked by Meggie Butts what my 'take' was on I Corinthians 14:34-35, I responded that the scripture meant exactly what it said -- females were to be silent in church and if they had any questions, then they were to ask their husbands or dominant male authority to pose the questions to the Elders. Meggie, of course, went ballistic, said that I had 'betrayed' her because she had voted for my inclusion, and got so abusive and deranged that Alberts said that he was going to cool down the list for a while in early June 2000. Of course Alberts was a liar because Alberts re-opened it with Meggie and sans myself.
I had assumed, wrongly, that Willie Martin had gotten me onto the ID-L listserver as a troubleshooter to remove mamzers, baal-priests and agents provacateur. I was wrong because Willie Martin is not only gullible, but prefers to have a Church of quantity as opposed to quality, jewnity as opposed to internal security. Pearls are not to be cast before swine nor is it right that the Israelite Children's bread be cast to the dogs. Willie allows in all manner of snakes and then wonders why he gets bit by those serpents.
Rick Savage made the same mistake. When he tried to curb the snakes, Rick was of course bitten, by being 'moderated' by Alberts, Meggie, and Andy, and after Andy offered to leave the listserver no less. Andy Anderson's modius operandi is to get onto a listserver, fight with the elders there, offer to quit, and then after coming to some sort of 'understanding' with the listserver owner, to then be given the power of listserver life and death, proceed to censorship and ban all of his enemies.
Rick Savage contacted myself, I suppose, in order to raise the hue & cry. Within the week Savage regained control of his listserver, Alberts 'retired,' and Andy and Meggie were expelled, along with their allies Ksludge/Downey and Klunt/Debbi DoneFleet.
Now why did Savage regain the listserver as opposed to letting Andy keep it, like Holy_War? I suspect that it was based upon the root of all evil -- love of money. Unlike yahoogroups pobox.com listservers are not free. I imagine that Rick Savage simply was the only one paying the bills, and so control went back to its real owner.
Rick Savage simply dissolved id-l and set up another by the same name on yahoogroups and didn't invite Andy and Meggie and Klunt and Ksludge onto there and predictably, these spawn of satan whined about censorship and broken promises that these maggots and parasites no longer had access to relatively unwary CI newbies and marks. Of course, Rick could have simply subscribed myself and kept the listserver Meggie and Andy free, but I suppose that once Rick had gotten his property back he didn't think he needed a policeman any more.
Andy Blanchardsmamzer-Belialsson is of course a liar, but some of the details above might well work to reveal further details. Andy is, understandably, like most spawn of Satan and agents provacateur, not wanting to leave its street address nor photograph so that Andy can be traced and remembered by Resistance personnel. Yet ZOG has plenty of information on its hireling. Is there anyone so stupid that they don't think that ZOG has an extensive record of an alien which joined its armed forces, what this alien looks like, how many VD shots it got frolicking in the Phillipino whorehouses, and, according to this alien, that it is Christian Identity. Well, ZOG knows my current belief system as well, but I greatly doubt that it would put me in a nuclear-armed cruise missile system and ask me to target nuclear missiles. Obviously ZOG has no doubts as to which master, God or ZOG, Andy serves. So why should we be fat, dumb and happy about Andy and its lies?
Every Christian Identity Pastor or Resistance political figure should have posted a street address and a photograph. Why not, when ZOG and its chosen NGOs and agencies like the FBI/ADL/SPLC already know about the aboveground Resistance? Who, except from the Resistance, is Andy trying to hide?
Any Christian Identity pastor or elder with the policy that he has "a right" to hide his true identity from those Christians who know their Identity and have nothing to hide is really a baal-priest, a spawn of Satan, an agent provacateur, a ZOGling. Any Christian Identity pastor or elder who tolerates leaving these spawn of Satan able to hide in the shadows and strike the lost sheep of the House of Israel is a traitor, concealing Satan's spawn within his own robes. There simply is no excuse for this behavior.
I shall not tolerate the lying, thieving murderous behavior of the spawn of Satan, the jews, mamzers, whiggers, baal-priests, agents-provacateur ZOGlings, nor shall I tolerate those who tolerate those who do.
This is the only way to build a Body of Christ, this is the only way to build a Resistance.
Martin Lindstedt
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